Grooming and Conditions

Please send your Nordic ski and snowshoe conditions reports to Pete Tryon at ski@tryonhayes.com.  And if you can get a count on how many cars were in the parking lot, please send that along too.  We use the data to help support grant requests. You might also check the State’s SnoPark page or the Forest Service’s page for more information

Latest news by email? I’ve been getting word from our groomer as he goes out to Salmon Ridge. Do you want to be the first to hear about it? I’m sending out a group email (addresses hidden) whenever I have grooming news that seems worth sharing.  Send me an email if you want to be included.  I promise to share your address with no one. Pete Tryon at ski@tryonhayes.com. (And if you want off the list, send me an email…)

Note: if you do get out there while the groomer is there, please don’t box in his truck/trailer while parking. He needs a lot of space to load up and get out!

2016-17 Season @ Razor Hone / White Salmon

 

2017-04-28: Today folks were enjoying snow travel to and from and around Austin Pass and Heather Meadows areas and White Salmon Roads. Some fog, light rain and not much sun but I got sunburned so beware if you have fair skin! Today was my latest ever day to cross country ski except once in May to try my Hok skis. I used them today to Austin Pass but rode the cross country skis on White Salmon.  Most interesting is hearing what I believe are owls in two places like last time On White Salmon but never saw them. -Dale

2017-4-10: Today was too stormy to enjoy Heather Meadows and higher. White Salmon was quite good including the Eastern spur near the bottom. I was there. Also at Razorhone at 40 degrees and softer snow but pretty good skiing. Snow should be around quite awhile with no permit required. Fun is being out early and trying to identify all the critter tracks. As in the past on White Salmon, I think I heard an owl.. I tried to call back. No owl showed its face like a spotted owl did in October 2015 along Hannegan Road. – Dale

2017-4-8:  Razor Hone and Anderson looked pretty grim.  I didn’t really inspect them, but they were unappealing (even though there was significant snow.)  But White Salmon was beautiful!  Multiple feet of base, with a solid top and then a couple of inches of fresh snow.  Temperatures at about 35 today.  User-created tracks might give you a little kick-and-glide.  No skating though… 🙂 Highway and parking were in great shape.– Pete

2017-4-4: At Razor-hone, plenty of snow with good conditions. [remember, the last grooming was March 17.] There are two water breaks between mile 1 and Blueberry.

Anderson Creeks side is about finished.
Up to mile 1, fair conditions.
Miles 2 and 3 are mostly unskiable with hard thin ice and bare road
Miles 3 to 5+ good conditions with an inch of new on a hard base.

Heather Meadows 3/30

For the first time in years I skied to the end of the road and beyond. Equally good skiing past what had been groomed with a hard frozen base on deep snow and 1-2 inches of fresh snow on top. – Ron

Mt. Shuksan, 4/3, from the far end of the SE extension, White Salmon

2017-4-3: Still a great place to go ski!  I stopped to look at Anderson – plenty of snow and fairly crusty.  Potential for a fast skate in the morning – might be too slow in the afternoon.  White Salmon was beautiful – Many feet of snow with a good crust with a dusting of fresh snow on top.  User-created trail with reasonable potential for kick-and-glide.  (the first quarter mile was messed up, but after that it was pretty good tracks.) – Pete

2017-3-30: While last groomed two weeks ago, it was beautiful skiing today at Razor Hone. I skied (skated) to the top of the first hill on 1-2 inches of fresh snow on top of smooth, level, packed snow. It was slow, but very nice. Excellent workout for Ski-to-Sea-ers! I skied out to the first corner on Anderson and it was even nicer. Not much in the way of classical tracks, but it would have been great striding, even so. I stopped at White Salmon – 6-8 inches of fresh snow on a six foot base. Then I went up to Heather Meadows to try out my new Hok skis.  While I’m not the first to extol their virtues (thanks, Dale), I’m the most recent convert.  Short and wide, they are a very forgiving pair of skis. They are similar to snowshoes while tromping around on the snow, but they allow sliding back down on the way home. I’ve skied (non-expertly) back-country for decades – these are a game-changer!  Talk to me if you want to try them out!

The highway was in great shape, with a little bit of slush above White Salmon on the way to Heather Meadows.

I believe the Razor Hone potties are going away tomorrow.  Stop at Glacier Ranger Station, Hannegan Pass lot, or Heather Meadows (at the top of the far lot) – Pete

2017-3-23: I used my Hok skis on White Salmon on fresh snow while two others were there on snow shoes.  After going to the bottom of the hill I followed the snowed on trail to just below the ski area.  Others were at Razorhone while I went up Hannegan on soft melting snow on my cross country skis until the road was bare in sunny weather. Nice day overall. – Dale

2017-3-17: The report is that grooming happened this morning. (And rumor has it that it might be sunny and 50 degrees on Sunday.) This will be the last grooming of the year, so it seems like a good time to go ski!  No report on whether White Salmon was done, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was. – Pete

2017-3-16: Razor Hone above freezing.  Heather Meadows stormy and windy all morning.  One of the best days at White Salmon with new snow over old tracks.  If you are an adventurer go to the end of the spur on the right going down near the bottom of the hill. Takes you to the base of Mt Shuksan. – Dale

2017-3-15: The Salmon Ridge Sno-Park parking lot was plowed down to gravel by DOT today.  No longer will your AWD Subie become mired up to the roof in some deep, wet hole in the middle of the lot.

With the very warm, wet weather forecast for days to come, we’re either at or very near the end of the grooming season.  The Sno-Park probably will NOT be groomed tomorrow.  Check back for updates. – Jim

2017-3-14:  I was out the highway for other reasons, but the report for today is that it was pretty sloppy.  No new grooming, 37 degrees and drizzle, very wet snow. Maybe cooler temperatures and one last grooming later this week…  (And I did stop by at the Glacier Cr. snowmachine snopark – very wet snow, but fresh grooming for what it’s worth… (see note below)) – Pete

2017-3-10: Lots of snow, but no grooming. 34-35 degrees and misting rain at 11 AM today.  User-created tracks on all three trails.  I just looked at Razor Hone and Anderson, and then drove up the hill to White Salmon.  The base was about five feet! The snow was wet and sloppy. Someone else had skied in a trail a few inches of snow back – it was actually pretty nice going.  If you had two or three people, at the end of your train, you’d have pretty good tracks! The road was wet pavement to Razor Hone, with some slushy snow on the pavement on the way up to White Salmon. The parking lot at Razor Hone was bad – without 4WD, I’d park across the road at Anderson. I stopped at Glacier Creek snowmachine snopark on the way home. Check out the page for more info if you are a strong skate-skier or solid back-country skier. – Pete

2017-3-5: Another beautiful day of skiing. Temperature around 30 and sunshine at 10:00. New snow at 2:00. Lots of user-created tracks with good kick and glide, but no skating. A great time to ski the Cougar Loop. We’re hoping for one more day of grooming towards the end of this next week. – Pete

2017-3-4:  Snowing and 30 degrees at 11:15am. There is now over 18″ snow on top of the groomed trails on Razorhone and 2′ of snow on top of the groomed trails at the top of the Cougar loop. – Gail

2017-3-3: At the risk of sounding like a civic booster, it was pretty good skiing! I (skate) skied up to the first switchback on Anderson from 9-10 this morning. It was light rain at 34 degrees. There has been no new snow since it was groomed yesterday and it has not frozen up. Consequently, the snow is a little mushy, but skating on the corduroy  was good (a little slow) and with excellent control. It would be a serious workout to skate up the hill to the top, but you’d have control coming back down. The tracks for classical were in excellent shape (no-wax skis needed – don’t even think about red klister!) Across the road, Razor Hone looked in equally good condition. Thanks to the groomers for a great job. Roads to RazorHone were wet pavement (I’m sure there is lots of snow on them higher up). No report on White Salmon – I’d expect fresh snow. Go have fun (but bring a raincoat) – Pete

2017-3-2: Grooming happened this morning.  Anderson creek road was finished grooming around 11:30. It was 34-35 degrees and wintry mix that transitioned
to rain. Quite sticky at the top and snow accumulating rapidly. Tracks were good and corduroy was mostly smooth –rutted in places, but hard to say what will happen with new accumulation on top. Razorhone was groomed after. – Claire


2017-2-27:
(3 PM) 30 degrees, snowing heavily. Skied to the end of Razorhone and back. 3 inches new snow on trail. Well worn skier set track along entire length. Beautiful winter wonderland! – Ed

2017-2-24: Time to go ski!

RazorHone: groomed, with tracks.  Excellent skating. I skied it at about 11:00.  It was fast, but with sufficient texture for control on the hills.  (I didn’t go up Cougar). I’d guess that morning is best for fast skiing, skating in particular, and afternoon would be best if you want softer snow.

Anderson: same as RazorHone.

White Salmon: groomed, with tracks, and about an inch of fresh snow.  Cooler than RazorHone.  I skied at about 12:00 and did waxed! classical skis.  It was beautiful!  (extra blue wax, my favorite)  The fresh snow makes for excellent control on the downhills.  It’s thin enough that a strong skater would have no trouble – but I would find myself stuck at the bottom of the long hill – wondering how I would get back to the car. [the picture isn’t as clear as I had hoped.  It’s supposed to show skate tracks and classical tracks down the left…]

Roads: the road out to RazorHone was bare pavement, with a few wet spots.  The road up to White Salmon had some slushy snow and ice, but with sanding by the highway department.  Please use your own judgment – but it’s in pretty good shape. The Salmon Ridge parking lot was plowed out this morning and can be navigated with any car.

Dogs: My understanding is that the Forest Service says that dogs should not be taken on groomed trails. I know that some people would like to change this – BUT, if you take your dogs on the trails, be a good citizen! Between yesterday morning and today, someone’s dog left a pile of ‘special brown’ in the middle of the freshly groomed trail out near Cougar.  This is not the way to win friends and influence people!

Hannegan Pass Road: not groomed.

2017-2-23: The report is that White Salmon was also groomed today (hopefully including classical tracks).  This could be some of the best skiing of the season! Remember, we’re experimenting with diagonal parking – pull in angled to the left as you look up hill. Depending on how wide it has been plowed out, we can get as many as 12 cars in there at once. – Pete

2017-2-23: Our groomer is scheduled to be up at Salmon Ridge this morning, as I type.  If you go up today, PLEASE don’t block his access onto and off the trails. He needs the ramp to get the Pisten Bulley onto the snow. – Pete

2017-2-12:  Got to Salmon Ridge 2:30pm, 37oF, gorgeous sunny day! Nice job with the grooming, track well set, 1/2″ soft snow on top of a well packed base this afternoon. Melting a bit, and likely refreezing at night, so if you don’t want to ski on ice, don’t come early. Get up to ski Tuesday, before the rain comes (W & Th). More snow coming next weekend if you can’t make it now. Gail

2017-2-12: The report is that grooming is happening this morning!!  Time to go ski! I don’t have any more information than that… – Pete

2017-2-11: Thanks to Kveta and Andrew for sending in reports from today.  No grooming was done, but it sounds like the snow was pretty nice.  A user-set track going out Anderson will hopefully still be in good shape tomorrow.  And I’m sticking with the prediction that it should be nice conditions for skiing around the Cougar Loop (although I was not up there today!) – Pete

2017-2-10: Noon.  There is lots of snow, but no grooming yet.  Razor Hone and Anderson were very wet (it was raining). One only sank 4-6 inches to consolidated snow – it would be slow going, but it would be a fun expedition to go around the Cougar loop and see the creek and bridge with excellent speed control on the hills.  I skied at White Salmon – snow falling and very pleasant. The highway to Razor Hone was pretty good – only a very small amount of ice or slush. Experienced drivers would not have had trouble today.  Beyond 47 mile, I was very happy to have snow tires and allwheel drive.  Be Careful! Conditions might change in minutes. – Pete

2017-2-7: Lots of snow!  But check to see if the highway is open before driving up there.  They have closed it because of trees falling -either already or potential.  One source is the WA DOT Pass report And I’m sure that grooming hasn’t happened yet… – Pete 

2017-2-3: Grooming happened this morning, although no report on whether White Salmon was done (I’m guessing, probably not…) Kveta reports that Anderson has ‘great conditions’.

2017-1-30: Icy! Beware down hills on skis. You go very fast and if you fall the icy surface is very hard. Going to the end of Razorhone you need your back country skills to get over the creek and road washout. – Dale

2017-1-27: Fresh grooming today on Anderson and Razor Hone. The surface level is wonderful, but unfortunately, because of the layer of boilerplate underneath, the track setter was only able to cut shallow tracks for classical.  Skating was terrific.  I skied around the Cougar Loop (classical, and clockwise). The groomer had been able to get to the high point on each side of the loop, leaving only the short downhill section to the bridge on either side unpacked except for user trails.  I took my skis off and walked down the hill to the bridge, but kept them on for the trip up the other side. White Salmon was not groomed. – Pete

2017-1-24: Fresh grooming on Anderson and Razor Hone today. (and Hannegan – sort of.) Sean was out with the Pisten Bulley grinding up ice and making snow today.  I skated up to the 2nd switchback on Anderson and had a quick trip back down.  If you go, don’t count how many times I had to stop and pant…  But it does make a good workout – and if you can do it without stopping, let me know and I’ll find a Ski-to-Sea team for you. Sean made two round trips grinding up Razor Hone and it was beautiful skiing right after he was done.  Unfortunately, I’m guessing that things will be freeze up tonight.  Even so, it is smooth and should still be good skating and there are good classical tracks on both trails.  He tried grooming Hannegan, but said that it was really icy.  I just looked at the end of it – it would probably be good ski-joring with back-country skis and metal edges.  White Salmon was not done.  The highway department put a restriction on the road – no wide loads.  (the road was in great shape out to the lower Salmon Ridge SnoPark.) They are hoping to groom again on Thursday – if your schedule is flexible, I’d aim for 1 pm on Thursday and hope for great skiing.  No promises though… – Pete

2017-1-21: Half empty or half full?  I skied out to the first bridge on Razor Hone today at 2:30 after Nordic Ambassadors. I had been telling people that it was pretty icy. It was, but actually it wasn’t that bad.  The grooming last Tuesday was really smooth – and the skating was fast! Once out to the first hill, it softened up a little. For experienced skaters, it’s pretty fun! Faster than usual, but not glare ice.  Classical tracks were really solid – good for double-poling and also reasonable for fishscale skis and kick and glide.  Others reported similar conditions at Anderson.  White Salmon had 5 or 6 inches of snow and snowshoe trails since the packing last week. Stay tuned for grooming reports next week. I’m guessing the pattern is icy first thing in the morning and softening a bit into the day.  12-2 might be a good time to ski. Temperature at 3:00 was 35 degrees.  Highway in good shape. – Pete

2017-1-20: 3 PM.  Icy boilerplate at Razor Hone!  But tracks are still there.  Double pole in the tracks works…  And be careful in the parking lot.  It’s glare ice. – Mary Beth.  [I’d guess it’s the same at Anderson (see new page if you’ve never skied there: Anderson Trail).  Probably nicer snow at White Salmon, but no tracks – Pete]

2017-1-19: Skied at White Salmon today.  Beautiful base, wonderfully packed by the groomer, but no classical tracks.  Hopefully we will get them next time. 3 inches of new snow on the groomed base at the top, almost no new snow at the low point on the trail.  Temperature 34 degrees at 1 pm, with light, wet snow coming down. We are experimenting with diagonal parking in the very limited parking area – seems to help a bit (9 cars fit in at once on Saturday).  It was raining (and 34 degrees) down at the bottom of the hill.  Some debris on the snow. Tracks and grooming holding up pretty well, given the weather – one could either skate or classical.  Anderson looked the best. – Pete

2017-1-17: Grooming happened today, including White Salmon.  I haven’t been up there and am a little worried about what is happening with wind and rain. [7-day forecast]  Please send me a report if you go up there.  I probably won’t see it before Saturday. – Pete

2017-1-14:  Nice day at the snopark!  Razor Hone and Anderson were groomed yesterday.  Tracks were a little shallow, but still really nice skiing, both classical and skate.  Some call it ‘a little icy’; others call it ‘pretty fast!’  You choose…  And while it was only in the teens and people were asking about where there was open sunshine and warmth (higher up the hill) – remember – all that shade and coolness is going to keep the snow with us longer this spring! White Salmon was not groomed, but great back-country touring (with snowshoe trails).  Note that we are experimenting with diagonal parking at White Salmon with a hope of fitting more cars in. – Pete

2017-1-13: Grooming happened this morning, but I don’t know whether White Salmon was done. Razor Hone and Anderson should be good, but maybe a little icy. If I were looking for skate skiing, I’d probably try Anderson first.  (If it’s your first time there – cross the Mt. Baker Highway from the SnoPark parking lot, but don’t go out the stub road to the campground.  Instead, look 50 feet to your left and climb up over the berm. You should see groomed trail immediately. If you don’t see a gate (open) within 100 yards, you have the wrong spot.)  I’ll be out at the snopark tomorrow (Nordic Ambassadors – stop on by and say ‘hi’ and have a cup of something hot…)  Hopefully I’ll check out White Salmon and post a report in the evening. – Pete

2017-1-10: Razorhone and Anderson were groomed this morning [Tuesday]. Both were good and fast but icy.  Only 1 to 2 inches of new snow meant that corduroy was partly frozen and bumpy when snowplowing down hills. – Pat and Dana [No report on White Salmon]

2017-1-7: Went out to Salmon Ridge today.  Anderson was fantastic.  Razor Hone was groomed and good, but Anderson was even better.  White Salmon was not groomed, but a beautiful ski on solid snowshoe tracks.  (thanks, snowshoers!) – Pete

2017-1-6: Razor Hone and Anderson groomed with tracks. Very nice!  White Salmon not groomed, but lots of snow and user tracks.  The groomer was broken yesterday, but they fixed it last night and went back out to groom.  Thanks! – Pete

2017-1-2: No ‘skis on the ground’ specifics (see two reports from Saturday, below). But the groomer is planning to be out later this week (before Saturday, the 7th) and then twice a week for the rest of January. If you go out in the next few days, dress warmly! It should be beautiful weather, but a bit chilly. – Pete

2017-1-1: A friend and I snowshoed from white salmon lodge down to salmon ridge parking lot. We had some trouble finding the flags at first, but part way down a gully below the knob we picked it up. Followed the flags down the Razor Crest Route all the way to Cougar Loop. Conditions were excellent for classic, and there were quite a few people out. No skaters obviously. Lots of snowshoes. Very good coverage everywhere we saw. – Dorothy [The route from the Knob down to Cougar is ‘unofficial’ and should only be attempted by experienced snowshoers.  Or extremely experienced skiers.  I wouldn’t do it on skis. – Pete]

2016-12-31 b: Anderson Creek Rd: Good user tracks from the start and all the way up about four switchbacks. The lower snow had a slight crust and was pretty fast. The upper switchbacks were deep with two-to-three feet of powder and incredibly enjoyable coming down — a true float on all the powder. Falling down presented a bit of a challenge up there because the snow is so deep that it was hard to find a consolidated bottom to help with the getting up. But that was a small price to pay! – Michael

2016-12-31 a: Happy New Year!  No new grooming, but a beautiful day regardless.  Razor Hone has had a lot of traffic and shows it – but starting at the first Cougar turn-off (a mile or so out) out to the second Cougar turn-off, it actually had pretty nice user-set track.  Good kick and glide. Before that, a wide, packed ‘road’. Reports from others that were out indicate that Anderson has very nice user-set track, right from the beginning.  Conclusions:  rough-and-tumble skate-skiing for the first mile of Razor Hone; pretty good classical skiing out Anderson; assumed to be beautiful back-country skiing up at White Salmon.  Hoping to get grooming early next week.  Enjoy! – Pete

 

2016-12-30: dogAll is well – the dog has been found and is happily back with its owner.

2016-12-28: Anderson and Razor Hone were packed by the groomer (apparantly no tracks) yesterday, but there has been 8″ of fresh snow since then. Lots of skier and snowshoe trails at Razor Hone. A beautiful set of user-created tracks at Anderson – I skied out to the first switchback.  Kick and glide!  I used heavy skis, but light-touring would be perfect. I don’t believe that White Salmon has been groomed yet at all.  There was 18″ of fresh snow with a well-packed snowshoe trail down it. The highway was plowed, but with some snow.  I wouldn’t drive it without snowtires.  But with snowtires, it was easy going. 28 degrees at white salmon, 33 degrees at Razor Hone, lightly snowing as I left. – Pete

2016-12-27: Grooming happened this morning with a reported 12″ of fresh snow. I did not have a chance to go up there myself and do not know what trails were groomed nor what the weather is doing now! – Pete

2016-12-24: At 8:30 AM, it was 30 deg. calm and six inches of light new snow lay upon the groomed trail. I was the first skier on the Razorhone Road trail and after the first-quarter mile it was unmarked by dogs, walkers or snowshoers. Cougar Loop had from eight to 16 inches of new snow, which rendered the steep parts from a cougar into a pussycat. This season has had the best December for skiing at our trails in the past four years.  – Kurt

2016-12-23: There has been more snow and I understand that the snopark was groomed today, although I have not been up there and do not know the status of the various trails. – Pete

2016-12-19: 6 inches of fresh snow on top of the grooming that was done last week at Anderson and Razor Hone.  User packed tracks for pleasant skiing.  Hope to have grooming on all trails later this week. Temperature between 1:00 and 3:00 today was 33 degrees. Highway to Razor Hone was in excellent shape (could change in minutes…) – Pete

2016-12-16: White Salmon Rd. not groomed but good skiing nonetheless. Snow is pure confectioner’s sugar, so much so that traction was a challenge on some of the steep uphills, but a joy overall. Snowmobilers, for better or worse, have been using the road which has consolidated things a bit, but also took away any ski tracks. The SE extension hasn’t seen much use and it was more ski walking than anything and there’s no consolidated base. Salmon Ridge is in incredible shape with perfect conditions and grooming. – Michael

2016-12-15: Razor Hone and Anderson were groomed today. Corduroy and one set of tracks. Skiing was fantastic – best ever, that we have seen at Razor Hone. Was getting a little icy when we left – Dana and Pat. [White Salmon was not done, but it is expected that it will be done next week. Pete]

2016-12-11: Fresh snow!  No grooming yet, but it’s beautiful.  At 10 AM, there was almost 2 ft of snow, ‘snowball’ snow, but still comparatively fluffy at Razor Hone. A nice skier/snowshoer packed track in on Razor Hone, no tracks on Anderson.  I did not go up to White Salmon, but I’m sure there is lots of snow and user-created tracks.  Hopefully we will get grooming this next week. The gates are closed and the SnoPark signs are up.  I’ll keep you posted. Pete

2016-11-29: November and skiing! Just got back from a nice ski at White Salmon. I went down to the far end of the new SE extension. Lots of (relatively warm, wet) snow and user-set tracks, but no grooming yet.ws_nov16

Details: Indeterminate (a foot or so), excellent base with 6-8 inches of fresh snow on top. Snow is wet (snowball quality) but quite skiable. I used back-country fish scale skis and had a great time. A strong person with light touring skis could have had legitimate kick-and-glide. Note that the trail after a couple of passes was excellent.  Get a couple of friends together and you’ll have pretty good track skiing behind the leaders. Not suitable for skate skis though 🙂

No snow at all at Razor Hone / Anderson.

Weather: overcast, 34 degrees at White Salmon, 37 degrees at Razor Hone at 2 PM.

Driving: The road was clear and sort-of wet.  At the time that I was there, two-wheel drive and all-weather tires would have been fine.  Note that could change in a matter of minutes! Parking for 6 or so cars was plowed out at White Salmon. Happy skiing! Pete

2015-16 Season @ Razor Hone / White Salmon

2016-03-26: Skied White Salmon from 1:30-3:00. It was warm, sunny and the mountains were out in all their glory. We were the only skiers. Saw 11 snowshoers and their dogs who tore up the trail; however the snow was such that it was easy to glide over their trail. Or we made our own tracks in the fresh snow. Skis had to be removed several times on the way up to the knob. We spent the night at the Mountaineer’s Lodge and it snowed about 2 feet. As we drove past the White Salmon parking lot on Sunday afternoon, we didn’t see any cars but lots of fresh snow on the trail. – Karen [Sorry for the late posting – I’ve been traveling away from the internet… Pete]

2016-02-29: 4 cars parked at the hairpin curve by White Salmon, with no etiquette as to how others will get in or out. About 6″ of supreme fresh snow covering any previous grooming. Wonderful pioneer skiing. I imagine if compacted any time soon, skiers might be able to ski here for days or even weeks to come. No one by Salmon Ridge. Very little snow, no tracks, still skiable on the lower Razor Hone. Skol! Kveta

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View from the Knob. Note corduroy in foreground.

2016-02-15: White Salmon was groomed today with (shallow) classical tracks down the side.  It was a beautiful day! Temps about 40. Corduroy all the way out to the knob and half a mile down the newly cleared south extension. A little gravel showing on the hill up to the knob, but you’ll see it as you slog up. Plenty of snow elsewhere. My guess is that things will be hard and super fast at 5 AM, and soft, mushy, and slow at 5 PM.  The trick is to pick the right time between these to go for a ski.  I’d probably go with mid-late morning for experienced skate skiers, and late morning-mid afternoon for people on fishscale skis just out for a nice ski.  Razor Hone and Anderson were not groomed and don’t have a lot of snow – but what is there is definitely skiable.  Don’t rule them out! Don’t know about access to White Salmon? Check this page: http://www.nooksacknordicskiclub.org/trails/descriptions/white-salmon/ – Pete

2016-02-25: I believe that the trails (at least White Salmon) are being groomed as I type this.  I’m on my way to check it out! My expectation/hope is that White Salmon will be beautiful skiing, both skate and classical. Will post again this evening. Wish you read this in your email? See note in the paragraph above. – Pete

2016-02-22: I was out of town, but am back and just did a trip up to Salmon Ridge.  I was up from 2:00 – 4:00 this afternoon; temperatures in the high 30’s, sunshine with a few clouds, highway in great shape. White Salmon: plenty of snow, 8-12 inches + on top of old grooming.  Nice ski tracks on top of old snowshoe tracks allowing a little kick and glide, but no skating.  Touring skis would give you a great ski out. I’m hoping the groomer will be out later this week – if so, this should be some great skate and track skiing. I didn’t go all the way out, but it looked nice. Razor Hone: Better than expected! (I expected nothing but road…) It’s still relatively flat and smooth.  Possible to skate, or kick and glide in nice tracks left by other skiers.  But when you get to the first hill, the snow is pretty thin.  Everything is ‘covered’ – but only enough so that it is hard to see the icy/rocky spots.  I’d still ski it, but use care coming back down any of the hills.  I only got out to the top of the first hill.  Anderson: I didn’t ski out it, but the first part looked like Razor Hone.  Possible to skate or kick and glide.  I’m assuming the rocky parts that I saw the last time that I was out there are only just barely covered with snow.

If I find out about grooming, I’ll post a report.

2016-02-04: Arrived early at White Salmon Road; it was not plowed out. 8 to 10 inches new snow. Went back down to Anderson; 2 inches new on old corduroy. Nice skiing snow is wet, may freeze up. We then skated some of Razorhone, up to bridge. Conditions similar to Anderson, maybe a little more new snow. – Dana and Pat

2016-02-03: Skated out Razor Hone and around Cougar Loop (part of the way). Fresh corduroy and excellent skiing!  The snow looked good enough to weather a bit of rain in the next day or so.  We’ll see how it holds up. Classical tracks were in great shape, too! (For the record, there wasn’t enough snow to groom the upper, back part of Cougar, but the near side is groomed to the high point. Depending on your skis and enthusiasm, you might wish to hike the upper half past the bridge.) I expect that White Salmon and the first part of Anderson are also in great shape, but can’t confirm. – Pete

2016-02-02: Groomed this AM. Razor Hone: 2 to 3 inches new snow, good corduroy. White Salmon: 6 to 8 inches new snow. Groomed, good corduroy, Shallow track set on left side.  Best day at Baker this year for us. – Dana

2016-02-02: Grooming is happening this AM (Tuesday morning).  I was out at Razor Hone yesterday and found ‘well-traveled’ 8″ of snow on top of the solid base that was there from last week.  With fresh grooming, it should be great! – Pete

2016-01-26: afternoon.  White Salmon was groomed this morning, with classical tracks set down one side.  Use caution on the hill back down from the Knob.  It is *fast*. The South extension was also groomed to the last turn-around before the first washout, but without tracks.  There was significant rain, but skiing was actually pretty good.  There is enough snow up there that it might be ok throughout the forecasted rain for the next few days.  Once it freezes up, it will be pretty icy until it gets some more snow.  Razor Hone was not groomed – the snow pack was pretty thin.  But while there were a few icy spots and a few rocky spots, it was good skating all the way out to the Cougar loop.  It has stayed remarkably smooth.  And the old tracks are still there – good for double-poling and ok for kick-and-glide, although they’d be pretty icy for kick on any hill. Who knows what the next few days will bring.  Thanks to the groomer for such a careful base. – Pete

2016-01-26: Tuesday.  Grooming is reported to be happening this morning and conditions could be good (possibly excellent at White Salmon) this afternoon.  And then we may have rain and it may all fall apart… Who knows, here in the Pacific Northwest. I was up there yesterday (Monday) and there was excellent base. [This just in – White Salmon is groomed, it’s starting to rain and the groomer is going to ‘check out’ Razor Hone…] – Pete

2016-01-22: I was going to go ski (and report on the trails) today, but the rain was just too yucky out my window in Bellingham this morning. And next week’s predictions don’t look all that good either. My guess is that grooming is waiting for cooler weather, but I have no first-hand reports.  I’ll post if I get up there or if someone sends me anything. – Pete

2016-01-20: No grooming since last Thursday – hopefully the Pisten Bully will be out there tomorrowS_whiteSalmon or the next day! (Thursday or Friday)  Razor Hone and Anderson are both still sort-of smooth, but as of 12:00 noon, very icy.  They would be FAST but not very pleasant skiing – I passed them by.  White Salmon was beautiful!  6 inches of fresh snow on top of a well-groomed base. Scattered ski and snowshoe tracks all over.  If we happen to get classical tracks set with the next grooming, it could be close to perfect! The picture on the right is at the junction of our newly cleared South extension, about 2 km out the White Salmon trail. – Pete

2016-01-14 Grooming happened this morning.  Razor Hone was groomed out to the top of Cougar with great skating and solid classical tracks (no tracks up Cougar).  Lots of moisture in the snow (it rained the last couple of days) and as it freezes overnight, it’s going to get harder.  The sooner you get out there, the better.  White Salmon was also groomed and is beautiful, but no classical tracks.  Check back next week, we think we’ll have them then.  Anderson is still smooth from the last grooming, but is pretty icy.  Hannegan has people driving trucks on it… – Pete

2016-01-11: Sorry, I didn’t copy over the last week’s reports from the old website.  Basically, Razor Hone, Anderson, and White Salmon were all groomed last week (about Jan 5) with excellent skating, but no classical tracks.  It may very well be raining up there now, but it might get colder and turn to snow.  I’ll try to post a ‘first person’ report in a couple of days. – Pete

2015-12-28: Grooming happened this morning!  The PistenBully was out today, laying down beautiful corduroy at Razor Hone, White Salmon, and the first part of Anderson. And several big trees were removed. Unfortunately, classic tracks were set only for the first half of Razor Hone, but skating was good to both of the gates on the Cougar Loop.  (The gates are now open and grooming should extend all of the way to the upper bridge next time.) There is a lot of moisture in the snow, so it is consolidating to a pretty solid base, but there is lots of it – no rocks or dirt.  Don’t forget your SnoPark pass for Razor Hone and Anderson – but White Salmon is free. – Pete

2015-12-25: 11:30 a.m.  Snopark plowed with space for parking. Great new snow and good ski track [skier created, not groomed] on Razor Hone all the way to where it meets Cougar Loop. Beyond that, we had to make our own all the way to where it is temporarily closed. – Kveta. [Still no word on when grooming will commence. – Pete]

2015-12-24: Arrived at Snow park at 9:30, road conditions good. Razor Hone had 5 cars, looked wet and slushy with 5 inches of new snow, so we drove up to White Salmon Road. Fantastic conditions. About 6 to 8 inches new snow over old tracks. Tracks 18 inches deep, a little difficult poling. – Dana & Pat [No word yet on when our grooming will commence. But enjoy the snow and the holidays! – Pete]

2015-12-21: White Salmon – Temp at 11am 31 degrees. At least six inches of fresh snow from overnight on top of a 2-4 foot base. There’s a 2′ wide snowshoe / ski path that provided a decent foundation, but it’s at least a foot deep, so it’s a bit of a trough. Adjustable poles with powder baskets would be very useful. Snow was light but very sticky — wax would help. The parking area is well plowed and room for seven or eight cars, no problem if people park well. Gorgeous out. – Michael.   Note: an unforeseen situation has occurred leaving the date of the first grooming as uncertain.  I’ll post here as soon as we know more. – Pete

2015-12-20: As of early Sunday afternoon, Razor Hone had 4-6” of very wet slush – not worth much other than to serve as a hopeful precursor of things to come. White Salmon (up at the switchback) had over two feet of snow and by mid-afternoon, a lovely trail broken out by a dozen snowshoers and one skier. Thanks! We’re hoping that we will have grooming up there shortly – I’ll post here when we do. And it was snowing with temperatures near freezing at both places when I left. – Pete

2015-12-19: No reports since the 16th, but we are hoping that it has snowed lots! Grooming has not happened yet.  I plan to go up tomorrow (Sunday) morning and will report what I find.  Who knows, we can at least dream of groomed trails for Christmas! – Pete

2015-12-16: Two of us enjoyed 3″ of untouched new dry snow on a clear day plus two others on snow shoes. http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Mount-Baker/snow-report was accurate predicting these conditions about five days ahead. By adding 3 to 4 degrees to the Mt Baker 3500′ snow report you can get a pretty good idea of the conditions at Razorhone of if you can see snow on the top of Sumas Mtn odds are good that there is snow at Razorhone. Watch for thin spots under trees. PortaPoties are at Razorhone. – Dale

2015-12-11: Today from the parking lot to Artist Pt and beyond the most and best snow of the season. Saw 7 on snow shoes, no others on cross country skis. Clear and no wind with awesome views on top. White Salmon had few inches over big vehicle ruts. Good run down to switchback. Beyond looked too fast and thin. One other on snow shoes. No snow at Razorhone. Expect 24″ snow at 3500′ to Sun night with light wind then turning quite cold. – Dale

2015-12-2: This AM 8″ new at Heather Meadows and 37 degrees and windy with fog above Austin Pass. Easy going up to Austin Pass on groomed road and snowmobile tracks. [Austin Pass is the picnic area pull-out on the road above Mt. Baker ski area and before Heather Meadows. Ed.]  Nice at Austin Pass except snow sticky. Ok for sliding but stepping built up snow on bottoms which can be removed by sliding skiis on pole baskets. Saw only two out with snow shoes and no others on cross country skis. If forecast right, expect 72″ more snowfall by Sun night. Snow skimpy at White Salmon and Razorhone. – Dale

2015-11-20: Two of us today to Artist Pt on cross country skis.  Perfect on top and around Austin Pass. Lots of virgin places for snow shoes. Groomed road from parking lot to Austin Pass is icy in many places and extremely fast—beware! Snow was on White Salmon with one vehicle parked there.  Condition unknown.  Snow on ground at Razorhone/Anderson creek but conditions are doubtful until more snow. – Dale

2014-15 Season @ Razor Hone / White Salmon

2015-3-1: I assume that everyone knows that there is no snow at Razor Hone right now.  I just had a nice bicycle ride up to the top of Anderson Creek Road.  But for skiing, one needs to go elsewhere! – Pete

2015-1-27: Only patches of snow left at Razor Hone.  NO SNOW at White Salmon.  Time for hiking, biking, kayaking, or driving north to Canada or east to Methow!  – Pete

2015-1-20: No new grooming and nothing exciting to report, but here it is:

  • White Salmon: 8-10 inches of new snow, sort of ‘light snowball’ quality. (30 degrees @ 3:00 pm) Unfortunately, someone was able to drive their truck around the big berm that DOT piled up and drove out over the first rise.  I’m guessing they didn’t go past the hairpin and down the big hill, but I didn’t go out there.  It would probably be a nice tour out to the knob, if you kept your thoughts light as you skied around the truck tracks. A few skiers and walkers had at least started up the trail. If anyone goes back to the knob, please send in a report.
  • Razor Hone: One ‘short’ inch of ‘crusty’ snow on top of the old hard-pack.  (33 degrees @ 3:00 pm) Not too bad skating on the first flats, OK tour skiing, but the tracks aren’t in good shape.  I’m sure the hills have lots of rocks in them, but I didn’t go back there, either.
  • Anderson: Similar to Razor Hone, but I actually skied on it.  Short sections of pretty good skate skiing with some sections of double-poling down the narrow path of good snow between the gravel. It reminded me of ‘spring crust skiing’ in Alaska. I took my skis off in two places and there were several places that I was quite careful because of gravel.  Not really worth the drive, but if you are there, it’s a fun little ski. – Pete

2015-1-13: To what do you compare them?  Beautifully groomed trails at Whistler Olympic Park? Or sitting on the couch at home?  Either pretty sad – or not too bad!  Today was 32 degrees at 3 PM, but the snow never warmed up.  So crusty / fast snow.  The flats at Razor Hone weren’t too bad – a few (but only a few) rocks showing through. Tracks still in pretty good shape – one person walked on them part way out.  Skating not bad.  The hills have lost some snow and were quite icy.  Metal edges were nice, plus rocks to dodge. Not so good.  Anderson was still in pretty good shape (icy and fast – but good skating).  Skiers put in some pretty good tracks and no one has walked on them.  Should be fairly good for a few more days.  I’m guessing that things will be ski-able into the rain at the end of the week for those who are hard core.  But it would be really nice if it turned to snow!  I don’t think it’s worth grooming until we get more snow.  No report on White Salmon, but I’d guess that it’ pretty bad. – Pete

2015-1-10:  Walked around the Jerry Bourne trail with the dog. A great trail around the pond, no snow shoes needed. The dog loved it! Two cars stopped at Hannegan Pass road, but upon seeing people were driving down it, they left. Too bad there’s not enough snow to berm up and keep the vehicles out so people could ski here with their dogs. Arrived at Razor Hone road 1pm, 39 F, gray and misting. We skied down Razor Hone, the flat part was great. But going up the first hill, there were lots of rocks in the middle of the road. I tossed several off the road, but there are still lots left. The snow got very thin before getting to the Cougar trail as you near the top of the RZ hill. So we turned around. From here, some folks took off their skis and walked down the hill. That is probably the wisest course of action unless you are very skilled at dodging rocks. I skied, missed most of the rocks, but did manage to hit one and have a new scratch in my good skis. My husband, who’s a good skier, was less fortunate. He tried to ski down, but caught a ski on a rock and was thrown hard onto his shoulder and head. We ended up going to Urgent Care. My advice: if you are desperate to get out to ski, stay on the first flat part of Razor Hone. If you really want to venture further up the hills, take your ‘rock’ skis. Beware of lots of rock and thin areas.
We really need more snow. – Gail

2015-1-9: Razor Hone, Anderson, and White Salmon are all groomed!  And they are skiable!

Short version:

Thanks to our groomer for doing an excellent job with marginal materials.

  • White Salmon – groomed with ‘corduroy’ but no tracks.  Snow depth 4″ and melting.  First part probably good for this weekend, but no more.  Gravel showing in a number of places. If you skate, probably best to use ‘rock’ skis.
  • Anderson – groomed with corduroy but no tracks for 0.9 miles.  Currently beautiful!  Should last through the weekend and more.  Good for inexperienced skate skiers.
  • Razor Hone – groomed with corduroy AND one set of tracks.  Excellent condition to the end of the flats, noticeable gravel showing in spots on the hills.  Tracks in pretty good shape all the way out. Cougar Loop not groomed (and with many bare sections.) Should last through the weekend and a little more, although the gravel is only going to get worse.

Temperature: 41 degrees @ White Salmon, 34 degrees @ Razor Hone, early afternoon.

Long version:

White Salmon – I skate-skied out to the hairpin turn that points down the big hill.  It wasn’t bad up ’til there, but lots of rock going down the hill.  I’d have tried for The Knob if I had my ‘rock skis’, but didn’t want to attempt the gravel (see pictures below).  It skied pretty well and was reasonably fast, but it was also melting fast.  I had to take my skis off for one short section. No tracks, but touring skis would be fine.  Very pretty – but conditions won’t last long. Think of it as ‘Spring Skiing’ – what you do before you put your skis away for the season…

Anderson – This was a real surprise.  It actually was awesome!  Very smooth skiing with gentle up and down hills.  If you want to try skate skiing, this is the place to do it. (no tracks) Touring skis would be fine, too.  My guess is that it will be sort-of crusty and fast in the morning, a bit more forgiving (and slower) in the afternoon.  If you are a beginner on skate skis, when you come to the orange/white ‘saw-horse’ sign, stop and consider the hill.  The tree you see across the trail at the bottom of the hill is the washout.

Razor Hone – The first flat area is almost as nice as Anderson, plus it has a good set of tracks down the side. Then as you start up the first hill, you’ll see some gravel, but you can ski around it (the track is clean). The second hill is a bit worse, but still skiable.  But be careful when you come back down. I hiked up the far side of Cougar, thinking I was going to ski down the near side, but ended up walking down half of it because of bare spots.  But it made a fun loop. (I didn’t go past Cougar) Like Anderson, I’m guessing fast in the morning and late afternoon, slower and more forgiving in early afternoon.

Summary:  Beats sitting on the couch!

Comments or questions?  E-mail me at the address at the top of this page. – Pete

White Salmon - Jan 9.

White Salmon – Jan 9.

White Salmon - I turned around. Jan 9

White Salmon – I turned around. Jan 9

Anderson Corduroy. Jan 9

Anderson Corduroy. Jan 9

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2nd bridge on Razor Hone. Jan 9. (Sorry, no pictures of the gravel parts)

2nd bridge on Razor Hone. Jan 9. (Sorry, no pictures of the gravel parts)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2015-1-7: Inversion – 32 degrees at Razor Hone, 40 degrees and sunshine at White Salmon. Solid snow cover at Razor Hone, with skier-created tracks. Not bad skiing, but nothing to get excited about.  But skate skiing in the sunshine at White Salmon!  While I couldn’t say that it was perfectly smooth corduroy (it wasn’t groomed), the top surface had softened a little and it was actually not bad!  I only had time to get about a mile out (just before it went down the big hill) but I enjoyed it.  No tracks at all – and you could have walked back there instead… – Pete

2015-1-2: Nice day at Razor Hone!  Fairly nice ‘skier-created’ tracks –

good enough for classical kick-and-glide with skinny skis. A couple of hardy souls were skating, but you would need more aerobic capacity than me for it. Solid base and it was snowing as we left.  If the next storm comes as snow rather than rain, we should have our first grooming next week (Jan 8 or 9 maybe…) – Pete

2014-12-29: Happy Holidays! I skated out to the end of RH this morning at about 10:30 under beautiful, calm sunny skies-couldn’t tell it was gale force winds elsewhere, except for wispy snow flurries being swept off of the highest ridges. There was 5-8 inches of fluffy on top of previous denser snow which made it a great skate ski workout. – Eric G.  [Note: I was there in the afternoon – very nice, with skier-packed tracks – in pretty good shape.  29 degrees and calm @ 2:00 PM. But you’d have to be in shape to skate through the snow… – Pete]

2014-12-28: There is about 4″ on heavy wet snow at Razorhone – enough to ski upon so I closed and locked the gates. I only skied part way up West Cougar, but had talked with some skiers that had done the whole thing. There are some twigs down on the snow and lots of tracks, but I never hit gravel. I saw several skiers, snowshoers, and families playing in the snow. It was 34 F at 1pm and snowing big flakes when I left at 3pm. There were 15 cars at RZ, 1 at AC, 7+ at HP road. – Gail

2014-12-16: Warm weather has done its thing.  There is no snow at all on Razor Hone, the Cougar Loop, or White Salmon @ the Knob (the far end).  I didn’t actually see the road end, but I don’t think there was any there either.  How about a few snow dances to bring in the new year? (And it’s great conditions for hiking!) – Pete

2014-12-03: The tree is chunked up and in the ditch, the road is clear, but Razor Hone has only a thin layer of snow.  Easy walking, and people are still driving.  White Salmon has 4 inches of snow on the ground, but people are driving back to the knob.  One could ski the newly cleared White Salmon Extension, but it’s as easy to walk. – Pete

2014-11-30: There is a big tree across the Razor Hone ski trail, about 1/4th of a mile in from the parking area. Ground had a dusting of snow, great to walk on, not enough for skiing. [We’ll try to remove the tree by the end of next weekend – Pete] – Titti

2014-11-23: There is about 2 ft of snow at the Mt. Baker ski area and about 1 ft at White Salmon road.firstSnow – Herm

Conditions at other ski areas: